Lightroom or Photoshop: When to Use Which with Terry White | Adobe Creative Cloud

(upbeat music) [Terry White] – Welcome everybody. Hello and welcome to
Lightroom and Photoshop. When to use which. I did this session yesterday
for the first time. So it was like, gave me a lot of feedback from the audience just
from where they stood and so I could adjust
accordingly for today. First and foremost, how many of you are, are using what we refer to
today as Lightroom Classic? So the Lightroom has been
around for a decade. Great. How many of you are
using the new Lightroom? Which used to be called Lightroom CC, and it’s now just called Lightroom. Great. Anyone trying to use both? Okay, we’ll have a chat
about that in a minute. And how many of you just use Photoshop, you don’t use Lightroom at all? Good, good. Now your
probably here to figure out why would you need Lightroom at all. All right. So yesterday I
started off same questions, asking primarily to see who was on which version of Lightroom. And for those that aren’t
on Lightroom at all, because there are two versions, to explain the differences
between those two versions, so you can make an educated decision, if you do decide to use Lightroom, which one to use. Um, so that’s where I’m gonna start and then we’re gonna get into examples of when you would use one over the other, and why you would use one or the other, and when you have to use one or the other. Because there are situations that you will have to use one versus the other. All right, so with that said, this is my information up there. The main link you want on
this screen is the video link, which is my YouTube
channel at So if you just go to that URL that will redirect to my YouTube channel, where I have over 700 videos that are free to down…,
or free to watch. And all kinds of Lightroom,
Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, everything we’ve ever done. Mobile apps, and those will
continue to be updated. Also those are where my
live streams will be. Okay. Lightroom Classic and Lightroom. So let’s go back in time a little bit, even on the naming thing
and talk about that. So there was a program 10 years ago, 10 plus years ago called Lightroom. Actually, the official name
was Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. Actually more confusing, but
Adobe Photoshop Lightroom. And then, um, 2013,
Creative Cloud came out. Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC. No problem. And then, two years
ago, the team developed a brand new version of Lightroom for a variety of different reasons. Reason number one, people that had been using Lightroom, or attempting to use Lightroom,
the previous version, found in some cases that
it was just too difficult, too daunting, too many things, too many options, too many choices. I just want to manage my
photos as simply as possible. Number two, I’m not good at organization, I’m not good at backup, I’m not good at file management, and if something happens to
my hard drive, I’d be screwed. So those were the two main
drivers behind the new Lightroom. So the new Lightroom came out, and they decided to call it Lightroom CC. Wait, Terry, you just said the other one was called Adobe Photoshop Lightroom CC. Why would they name the
new one Lightroom CC? We will find that out someday in some history book as
to why they did that. But then, so what does that mean for the one I’ve been using for years? What is that one now called? That one became Lightroom Classic CC. Okay, fine, grumble grumble. Lightroom Classic CC, Lightroom CC. Last year, because we don’t really, we haven’t made perpetual
products in years now, why do we need to call
everything CC anymore? Because it is. All of the stuff is CC now. So they dropped the CC. So now it’s just Lightroom
and Lightroom Classic. That’ not confusing at all. Okay, two products that do the same thing, but one does more, one’s
been around longer, one’s easier, one does some
things the other doesn’t do. So let’s get into that. Lightroom Classic versus Lightroom. So Lightroom Classic, there’s the icon. The one you know and love if you’ve been using this
for years like I have. Same Lightroom you’ve used for years. Still gets new features and updates. So it’s not like one
replaces the other one, one’s being discontinued and therefore is not being updated
anymore, none of that. Still gets updates, got updates yesterday. Got new features yesterday. So that’s not the case. You can still sync to the the cloud. Yes, the original Lightroom Classic, had what we used to call Lightroom Mobile. So you could go get the
Lightroom for your phone, and use Lightroom Classic
to put images in the cloud, download them down to your phone. Okay, great. This is the number one bullet on that side that you need to worry about. And I use it on the bullet points but this an important bullet point. The biggest differentiator
between the two, is that in Classic you are 100% responsible for managing your photos. Meaning the storage of them. Where they are, on what hard drives and how you back them up, and where you archive
them to and all that, that’s all on you. The program will help you to see them and develop them and
edit them and all that, and know where they are, but if you put them on a hard drive and that hard drive crashes
tomorrow, don’t call Adobe. ‘Cause there’s nothing that Adobe can do. And the person you call will probably say, “Do you have a backup?” Because if the answer
is no to that question, what do you want me to do? ‘Cause we don’t do anything
with your photos in Classic, that’s all on you. All right. The new Lightroom. Rounded corner Lightroom
we will call it today. Rounded corner or cloud
Lightroom or Lightroom cloud, whatever you want to call it. That’s the new one that
came out two years ago. New and easier to use. It doesn’t do as much, so therefore there isn’t as
much to be confused about. It does it’s primary goals, which is managing your photos, allowing you to edit your photos and allowing you to export your photos. That’s what it does and that’s
what it’s really good at. You can import and edit
you photos everywhere. Now the difference is, when I import my images in the Classic, they’re on my hard drive
and Lightroom now sees them and can use them and manage them, but their only on my hard drive unless I tell it to do something else. When I import those same images into Lightroom rounded corner, they’re immediately synced up to the cloud the minute I have an internet connection. And so therefore, if I sign
in to Lightroom on my iPhone, my Android device, my iPad, a web browser, they are immediately
available to me there as well. And they’re not only just available to me, I can edit them, export them, share them, do whatever I want on any device and those edits are reflected
on every other device. Sounds amazing. No key wording. Now what are key words? Key words are those words you put into your metadata panel, keyword panel so that you’ll be able
to search for it later. There are people, there are two people that fall into two camps. People that keyword and people that don’t. I’m in the, I used to be a keyworder camp, not anymore, haven’t been for years. I do it only for stock but that’s it. Because what I found is the amount of time it was taking
me to put in keywords, if I was just better organized, I would always be able to find my images faster than it would be the time it would take me to do all the keywords. Now, I’m not saying don’t keyword. I’m just telling you I don’t. A lot of people will have legitimate hard core reasons why they must keyword and they do it religiously
and they do it everyday and maybe they just like extra
work, no I’m just kidding. Maybe they just like work, and they do it. So great, if you like keywording,
I’m not telling you don’t. What is Lightroom rounded corner do? You don’t, you can put in
keywords, but you don’t have to. Because the images are
being synced to the cloud therefore there are also
being analyzed by Adobe Sensei for what the context of the image is. So if I were to go my Lightroom CC, or my Lightroom rounded corner right now, and type in waterfall, it
would find all my waterfalls even though I’ve never key
worded a single waterfall. Because it knows what a waterfall is. If I would say find blue
cars, or find blue cars, because it knows what they are. So I don’t have to keyword in the new one. Can I still?, sure. Because it doesn’t know
what blue Cadillac is. Cause it doesn’t know what a Cadillac is. So in that case I, if I were
looking or having to search for a Cadillac or a Toyota or whatever, those I would have to put in. But it knows what a car is. Here is the big bullet point
for this side of the screen. You don’t have to manage your storage. You don’t have to manage or backup. You don’t have to worry about it. Because the minute you import your images into the new Lightroom, as soon as you have an internet connection it will tell you in upper
right corner when it’s done. Your images are synced. Yes your full resolution,
yes your raw files, yes anything you can
import in is backed up. So, in that same scenario,
where your hard drive crashed the next day
after you used Lightroom and they were all synced,
no need to even call Adobe. Go get yourself a new hard drive, install Lightroom again and then log in. And you’ll magically see all
your photos start to appear. Because they will start streaming
down from the cloud. Done. So that’s the differences,
main differences between them. I get it. Okay. (chuckles) They’re all available on plans and start at 9.99 a month and depending, they have storage options and so forth and so on. Okay. I decided to create a visual
representation of the two. Both get you into the game. Both play the game. Which one do you want? The one that’s easy, simple, one button? Or the one that has a
little bit more controls? Does a little bit more. That will be up to you. But that is the big difference. All right. So now let’s talk about the whole cloud thing, the syncing part. Cause I mentioned syncing on both of them, what does that mean? Well in the Lightroom Classic that I’ve been using for years, hang on. Both products talk to Lightroom Cloud. Classic only syncs smart previews. So what does that mean? It means that… I pick which collections
or albums to sync. And if there’s a 100 raw
images in that collection, it converts those 100 raw
images behind the scenes, and uploads smart previews that are only 2500 pixels on the longest edge. So its not the full resolution. Unless the full resolution
was less than 2500. But if it were a 40 mega pixel file, your only getting 2500 pixels on the longest edge in that smart preview. So what are smart previews good for? Seeing, on all your devices, sharing, small versions especially for online or web or social media. Making small prints. They’re still big enough for
small prints. And editing. And since they take up so little space, they allow me to work and do all my edits in Lightroom without being connected to all those hard drives I have at home. Or the big server I have at home. But that’s what gets synced up. Now, what if I grab the
Lightroom app on my phone, sign in, my phone has
a 12 mega pixel camera, and Lightroom on the phone
has a camera app built in, and I shoot a raw file, will that raw file on the phone, because it has no choice, will sync up to the cloud? 12 mega pixels, raw, original, And down to Lightroom Classic. So Lightroom Classic will ultimately get that 12 mega pixel file
that you shot on your phone. So coming down it’s originals. Going up it’s smart previews. Lightroom starts off with one terra byte of storage for 9.99 a month. Because you are syncing originals. Storage then becomes an issue here, because on classic, your
buying the storage locally. Your buying your hard drives. But when you’re using
Lightroom rounded corner, you’re therefore buying
storage in the cloud. Because that’s where your originals live. So you start off with one terra byte and your originals sync up and anything you shot on your
mobile devices syncs down, or syncs up because it’s
all in the cloud anyway. Then you’re good to go. Two other versions of Lightroom. Lightroom Web and Lightroom
on iOS and Android. Lightroom Web is
literally the web browser., sign
in with your Adobe ID and anything you’ve synced, or anything that you’ve got
in either version is there. All your albums, your collections, everything you’ve ever synced. Is there for you to edit and do anything you wanna do with them. iOS and Android, in the
respective app stores, App Store, Google Play Store, download the Lightroom apps for free, sign in with that same Adobe ID. You will see all the synced
items that you’ve ever synced, and you’ll be able to
start adding new items that you shoot on your those devices, or import onto those devices, and you’ll be able to
edit and do everything. No matter which version
of lightroom you’re using. So you kinda have the best of both worlds and you have a great
choice to choose from. It’s a question I normally
get sometimes from people is, “Well can I use both?” and the Lightroom team
will tell you, “No.” You shouldn’t use both. Notice I said shouldn’t. I’m gonna leave it there. The reason they say shouldn’t, is because they’re believe
is you should pick one. Pick which ever one is
best for you, but pick one. The reason that they don’t want
you to attempt to use both, is because there are some disconnects. Remember I mentioned keywording? Well both Lightroom
Classic and new Lightroom uses slightly different
structuring keywording. So if you keyword in one, they don’t transfer over to the other one. That’s one reason not to use both. Certain edits don’t transform necessarily over to the other one. Certain things you might do don’t transfer over to the other one. So they don’t want you to ever be caught in that situation where you did something on one platform, and it didn’t appear on the other one. So they would just rather you pick one. Whichever one works for you. All right. Was that helpful to the people that didn’t
know Lightroom yet? Good. Yeah quickly, yes. (audience member whispers question) – I’ve not done it yet. His question is, let’s say
I start out using Classic, and you know, I don’t need
all the stuff in Classic, I’m ready to transition
over to the new one, will all the stuff I did in Classic now upload the originals in the new one? And I’ve not done it yet
because in the new one, there is import Lightroom Classic catalog. And I’m assuming that it would have to upload the originals at that point, but I’ve not done it. So I think the answers
yes, but don’t quote me, ’cause I haven’t tried it yet. Go ahead. Which version of Lightroom do I prefer? Who can guess? [Audience Member]- Classic.
Got you answer. Question is, on a mobile app, does it take your entire library
or just what I’ve synced? It depends. Which version
of Lightroom your using. If your using Classic, no
it’s only what you’ve synced. If your using the
rounded corner Lightroom, its everything you’ve synced. Because everything is already synced. So in other words if I import
500 photos into Classic, nothing is synced until I tell it to. Collection by collection. If I import 500 photos into
the rounded corner one, 500 photos are in the cloud and 500 are accessible on my phone. No, that would be a nightmare. So the question is, let’s say
I go download the phone app, this sounds interesting, I install it, I have 2000 images on my camera roll, what happens to those? Nothing. Does not touch those until you tell it to. So you can tell it to import and choose all 2000 if you want
or whichever ones you want, or, and or, you can set a setting in the mobile app that says from now on, when I add something to the camera roll, automatically import
it into the mobile app. Another question I normally get, along those same lines is, once I import it into the mobile app, whether manually or automatically, can I then delete it from the camera roll? Yes. There’s no reason to have both. Okay. So you can free up some space if you want to do it that way. If I get the mobile app and
I had 2000 images in cloud, will it now bring down all 2000 images to my phone and tie up all my space? No. It’s smart. And you can even set a cache size for how much it keeps on your phone. So, it works great. All right. Let’s do more. So now that we got a good
basis on what Lightroom is, now let’s really get to
the meet of this class is, when would I use which one? No, I take that back. When will I use Lightroom or Photoshop. So now for those of you who, the one person that might be in the room that doesn’t know what Photoshop is, what’s Photoshop compared to Lightroom. Photoshop is the end-all,
be-all image editor. With virtually no limits
on editing an image. Then what does Lightroom do? Lightroom, no matter which version, is about organization and yes, it does have some editing capabilities. So they both can edit my photos, then why would I pick one over the other? Because while Lightroom can edit and do non destructive
edits which is amazing, it can’t do everything. There’s no compositing, there’s
no layers, there’s no type, there’s no smart objects,
there’s no filters, there’s none of that’s stuff in Lightroom. There is some ability to remove
distractions from an image, but it depends on the distraction. If the distraction is complicated, then it’ll be easier
to do it in Photoshop. So there are times where people, depending on what you shoot
and what you work with, there are times where people
can just use Lightroom and never touch Photoshop. For example, if your a landscape shooter, I can’t think of too many times you would need to go to Photoshop. But if your a portrait
retoucher, your a compositor, I can’t think of a time when
you wouldn’t go to Photoshop. It just depends on what you do. So now I’m gonna get in to those examples. Let’s start with a “I don’t need to go to Photoshop” example. Here I have a shot I shot in Iceland. This was sunset and I got back to my room and I looked at this image
and I said, “What the…” “Why does this look like this?” “Oh my God, it’s horrible.” This image is bad in every single way. Because it does not reflect
what my eyes saw that night. I saw a gorgeous sunset,
orange color in the sky, blue clouds, beautiful water, amazing. And my camera was set to raw, and gave me a raw image
with no adjustments. It did not accommodate
what my eye was seeing. Said this is what the sensor saw, this is what your gonna get. All right so now let’s go fix that. In Lightroom Classic, you have modules. So we’re in the library module
which is all about managing. So you have folders on the left hand side, under your hard disk, that are where your photos
are physically stored. These are the places that my
photos are on this hard drive. And I can have multiple hard drives. For example, here’s the
server that’s at home. Its disconnected right now so everything kinda got question marks on in. Cause it’s not plugged in. But that’s got like 200 000 images in it. Then we have collections. And collections are for organization. This is where you get to play. This is where you get to
decide anything you want, which images you want, from any shoot at any time of your life, how you want them organized together. You have a child, boy, girl whatever, and you photograph that
child over ten years, well obviously you shot the child, photographed the child (laughs)
with different devices, different cameras, smartphones, whatever, so your gonna have variety
of different files. And your gonna put together your favorites for that child’s 16th birthday. Okay. Well obviously
I’m gonna have folders of all the different
shoots over the years, with maybe hundreds of
images in each folder. But when it comes time to put together that 16th birthday presentation, I’m going to want to put together my best of those hundreds or thousands of photos. That’s what collections are. Collections don’t take up any extra space. How many of you ever listen to music? That was an exercise
just to raise your hand. For those of you who
didn’t raise your hand, kudos to you for being lazy. So (laughs) or tired. So with that said, you listen to music. Let’s say you use iTunes. Whatever it is you use for music. Let’s say it’s iTunes. Well on iTunes you have a whole catalog of every song you’ve ever imported. Thousands of songs. Do you listen to all 10
000 songs at once? Never. What do you make to listen to the ones that you wanna listen to? Playlists. Where you
can put the same song in as many playlists as you want. You can rearrange the
order of those playlists. You can duplicate the song in a playlist. You can do whatever you want. Because you know whenever
you’re working in a playlist, it does not affect the original song. You delete, if you delete
a song from a playlist, cause your tired of listening to it, it’s still in your library. It’s just not in that playlist anymore. That’s exactly what collections are. Now the difference is, in Lightroom Classic
they’re called collections, in Lightroom rounded corner,
they’re called albums. That’s it. Serve the same purpose, just two different names. And I think they went with albums for the newer version because photo albums make more sense to
people than collections. People don’t ever think of
the word photo collections, they think of photo albums all the time. All right. Now that I know
that I can organize photos in any way, I can move them around in the order that I want them in, and do whatever I want. In Classic if I wanna edit this photo, I would head over to the develop module. In Lightroom rounded corner, I would just click edit. With the right photo
selected, there we go. And I’m in the same, I’m in
the editing capabilities. If I go over to develop, I’ve got the exact same
sliders in both programs. So there isn’t one
thing that the other one does in terms of edits. They both do the exact same thing. Now I’m gonna throw a wrench into this. In Photoshop’s Camera Raw,
it’s the exact same sliders. So Camera Raw, and Lightroom’s edit, and Lightroom’s develop module, are all the same exact thing. There isn’t one thing that one does, that the other one
doesn’t do. Why is that? Because that’s the editing
engin under Lightroom, it’s technically Camera Raw. So whenever there’s a Camera Raw update or a Lightroom update,
all of them get updated. Because the images have to be able to be transferred with
all the edits intact, between all three of them. Okay. So now doesn’t
matter which one I’m in, same edits would apply. So since I use Classic
we’ll stay in Classic. All right but what’s the first thing I will do to this image? Inherently with any image you shoot, your going to have lens distortion. Because your working with
a round piece of glass. A round piece of glass is gonna
introduce some distortion. Whether you see it with
the naked eye or not. So also in some cases depending
on the size of the lens, gonna introduce vignetting
around the outside, that’s darkening the image. So the first thing I do, I tend to do and I also do
this upon import automatically, I set up a import preset for this. Enable lens profile correction. What that simply does, is it looks at the meta
data behind this image, and says, “Oh, he shot this with a Nikon such and such body,
and such and such lens. I know what those two look like together. I’m gonna correct this
image based on that.” This data base is updated constantly. With every new camera that comes out, and every new lens that
comes out for those cameras. So it doesn’t matter
what brand your using. The only time this doesn’t apply, is if you make the
transition a mirror-less. Because mirror-less cameras
do this in the body. There’s no reason for Lightroom to do it. But for all your DSLR’s,
smartphones, point and shoot, all your other cameras, this is built in. All right so now that I’ve done that, the next thing I would do, is give myself a good starting point. So Lightroom has profiles. If you shot in raw, then your gonna have these raw profiles. If you shot in jpeg, your not
gonna have these raw profiles. So this will only apply to a raw image. Why does this apply do a
raw image versus a jpeg? Because when you shoot a jpeg, your camera has already
made the jpeg look better. Raw says everything’s off limits, I’m not gonna touch this image at all. So it’s gonna look like crap compared to what you
are really looking at. And you might have even looked
at the back of your camera and you snap the shutter
and it looked beautiful. What you saw was a temporary jpeg preview. (laughs) but once you
actually get to the raw file, all of those adjustments are gone. So all this is doing is Adobe’s method of trying to put back that look and feel that you would have seen from the jpeg. If it had been a jpeg. Non destructively. Whereas the jpeg is actually
burned into the file. So, I would think landscape,
because this a landscape shot, and it makes a slight adjustment, the blues got a little bluer, but I tend to like my images a little bit more vivid, so I like vivid. And everything got a
little bit more enhanced. So like I said this is very subtle. You could get by without this but I usually like to start with this. Next up, I’m a firm believer in my computer doing things for me. I love Adobe Sensei. I love anything that can happen automatically that saves me time. So at this point, to make
this image look better, I start adjusting exposure,
contrast, shadows, highlights, whites, blacks,
dehaze so forth and so on. But why do everything
manually if the computer can give me most of the way there? Most of the way there is
using the new auto tone. It’s a big button that says auto. Now auto is a bad word in photography. Cause it typically means amateur. “Oh you shot on auto did you?” “Those images look great.” “Your not a professional cause
if you were a professional, you’d shoot in P.” No I’m just kidding. You shoot in Manual so you would go in and set all your settings up yourself. When did hard become professional? That’s another story. Anyway. So I click auto because what’s the worst case scenario? It’s gonna adjust some sliders
that I don’t agree with and ill just readjust them. But it’s gonna do most of the work for me. Click auto. Got me most of the way there. Now, will it make some
slides or some adjustments that I don’t agree with?, yeah. But I’d rather just fix those than start from scratch every single time. So in this case, what didn’t I like? I think the exposure was
brought down a little too much. So I’m gonna bring it
back up just a little. Okay. And the rest of
it I’m kinda okay with. Maybe I bring up the
contrast a little bit more. But everything else I’m happy with. Next up, what it does not do is, it doesn’t do anything in presence. And in presence you’ve got
three important sliders. Texture, clarity and dehaze. And for a photo like this, I definitely wanna apply some dehaze. Haven’t met a photo yet that couldn’t be improved with dehaze. Especially outside. So, dehaze, too far, too far. Bring it up just a little. To bring back in some of that
atmosphere that was there. Now, we’re getting there. Two thing I don’t like about this photo. Still not happy with
the sky, three things, still not happy with the sky, I’m still not happy with the foreground because there’s some rocks in the water you should be able to see. And I’m not happy with
the horizon being crooked. So let’s go and do a
graduated filter for the sky. Now you can set this to
whatever you want to start with. I’m gonna set it to exposure. And that all it does is
zero out everything else. And it’s a very minor adjustment so your not even gonna see it. Let’s go ahead and pull this down. And again, you won’t see it yet. But now, I can go in
and adjust that exposure to bring out a little bit
more detail in those clouds. That’s kinda what I was
looking at that day. Next up, down here. I would love this to be just
a little bit less shadowy. So I can use my adjustment brush. I can go to shadows. And I can just paint this area down here. And even though I started with shadows, that doesn’t mean that’s
all you can ever use. I can adjust the shadows in this area, to be a little brighter. And if that’s not quite doing it, I can still go in and adjust the exposure. And just bring out a little bit more of that light down there. Last but not least, it’s crooked. You can always rotate and turn this and you get a nice grid to do
it with to get it straight. I don’t do it that way. Because there’s a better tool
in the crop called angle. When I click angle, I can
actually drag this along the edge that should be straight. And it will straighten it for me. Now at this, I can nitpick
and I can go further, but all my nitpicking would still continue to happen in Lightroom. Cause I don’t need Photoshop
for anything I’m doing here. There’s nothing I need
to do to this photo, that I can’t do in Lightroom. So this is a case, where
Lightroom is all I need, to make my photo look the
way I want it to look. All right. So that was a scenario, where Lightroom was all I needed. Now let’s talk about a case
where Lightroom’s quite, let’s look at one more. Hang on. Let’s go into my own collections again. Let’s turn that one up. And let’s go into this one. Should be another Iceland shot here. Lets reset this one. All right. Crooked horizon,
other things wrong with it, but what’s really bugging
me right off about it is this thing sticking
up out of the water. Distracting element. Yes it was there, yes
it’s supposed to be there, but that doesn’t mean it
has to be in my photo. That’s what you gotta get over too. “Well that was there.” And? (chuckles) Does it need to stay? We don’t care if it was
there or not, take it out. All right. So anyway. How do I get rid of that? Well that’ll be a piece
of cake in Photoshop, but do I need to go to Photoshop for that? In this case, probably not. Because it’s something simple enough and there’s enough background around it, to where I could by. So there’s a tool in Lightroom Classic called a spot removal tool. In Lightroom rounded corner, that tool, hang on let me go
back to the same collection, that was my developed demo, and let’s go find that same shot. Down. In the middle, There it is. That tool is called the healing brush. Same tool. Why is one
called a spot removal tool and one called a healing brush? Same exact tool. Because in the old days, with Classic, you used this tool to remove
spots that were on your sensor, like dust that accumulated and was putting it on every single image in the same spot. So you would select a 100 images, click, and it would remove it from a 100 images. And then a few years ago the team decided to make it into a brush where you can actually not just do a spot, you could actually brush it on things. And so when they brought out
the new version of Lightroom, they didn’t wanna call
it the spot removal tool because it’s beyond that now. So they called it the healing brush. Unfortunately, this is
not the same powerful healing brush that’s in Photoshop. And your about to see why. So let’s switch over to it. Let’s grab the healing brush. Now the difference is,
if I were in Photoshop, and I were to brush
with the healing brush, it would use the surrounding pixels to pull into the image
to make that go away. This does something a little
different, let’s do it. There. Haven’t let go yet. If this were Photoshop,
I would just let go and it would just disappear. When I let go in Lightroom, it’s kind of like going to
Vegas. (audience laughs) Spin the wheel, see where it lands. Because it tries to figure
out what should go there and it doesn’t always guess
right. I’m gonna let go. So lately on this one
it’s been guessing right, but let’s let go. Okay, it picked a spot right next to it. But could have just as
easily picked the sky. Like it just randomly picks stuff and maybe it’s getting smarter in it’s old age, but it’s random. Now. The beauty of it is, if
it picked the wrong spot , let’s say it did go up in the sky, you can pick this up and move it. You can move it to the spot where you want it to pick up from. So if it had done it from up here, and did something bad like that, the I would just pick it up and move it to wherever it would look best. So you do have the option to fix it. Now, you noticed I didn’t do the pole. Because sometimes it’s easier to use two different passes at it, so that it can use two
different spots to fix it with. So in this case, now I’ll do the pole. And that time it used from the right. So, problem solved. Didn’t
need to go to Photoshop. So the theme I want you to
take away from this class is, when does Terry, or when
should you go to Photoshop. Only when you have to. I do everything in
Lightroom, until I can’t. When there’s something that
just doesn’t make sense to do in Lightroom, I go to Photoshop. That’s it. That is the just
of the class basically. When to use one or the other. When Lightroom can’t do it. That’s when you go to Photoshop. Or when Lightroom doesn’t
do it efficiently, that’s when you go to Photoshop. Now I’m gonna give you some examples. So let’s say, this one was
actually a good example. Pice of paper laying on the
ground back there. Okay. That should be child’s play
for the spot removal tool. Great. You can move it
around and get a better spot. Now but let’s look at the rest, “Oh wait, there’s people back there.” you can crop them out but then, your gonna start encroaching on her arm. Oh I know. I’ll just remove those people. Piece of cake. “Oh wait. Oh no. I have nowhere to go.” So you might get it, it might work, but if this were Photoshop, patch tool, healing brush, cloning stamp. Whatever you want to make
that perfectly go away. Now, she kind of just under
this tree in bad light. So, what would I do to just put a little bit more light on her? Well, that’s easy. I’ve
got a radio filter, that I can adjust and make it exposure. And it’s like I brought
an additional light after the fact to relight this photo. Move it around, and the
light goes wherever I want. Beautiful. Okay. We avoided a Photoshop issue, or a Photoshop trip, not an issue. Let me find my picture of Tony. Tony, where are you? Had this problem yesterday.
Couldn’t find them. (sings) All right I’ll have to do a search but I’ll find it real quick. Here’s Tony. Okay. All right. And, let’s look at this one. On a postage image to Instagram. Lets say I shot this
for a fashion catalog. I need this image of
their tuxedo on Instagram. Have you ever posted
anything in Instagram? When you post a landscape
image, no problem. If you can’t see all
of it, what do you tap? The little double arrow thing
in the lower left corner, boom!, magic, you see it all. Ever do that with a portrait? What happens? Wait, say that louder. It still crops it. Because there’s a legacy history
bad thing with Instagram. Their portraits are still
a 4×5 / 8×10 aspect ratio. So if I were to crop this to try and get this ready up front, and I were to say, “Hey,
let’s just not be surprised.”, “Lets make it a 4×5 / 8×10”. You want his head or his
pants? (audience laughs) Cause you can’t have both in Lightroom. I can either do this, or I can do that. Now, at the end of the day, yeah that is horrible. I was gonna say it’s not horrible, it is, cause his hands gone too. This is not great. So you either use some kind
of app to make it fill in around the edges or you do something else, cause your done in lightroom, that’s it, there’s no other choice. You can’t add a layer,
you can’t add more pixels, you can’t do it, you
can’t do anything else. You’re done. So let me undo it. All right. This is a time where
I need to go to Photoshop. How do I go to Photoshop in
Lightroom with this exact image? Right click, edit in, Photoshop. Or, Mack, Command + E,
Windows Control + E. What happens when you do
that? If your in a collection, which you should be, the magic is great. If it’s a raw file, it
automatically makes a copy and opens it up in Photoshop. If it’s a jpeg, it asks you. Do you want to open a
copy or the original? So since this is a raw
file, when I choose it, I don’t get any dialogue
box, it just starts doing it. So I see my spinning
wheel, and a few seconds, Photoshop should pop up,
it’s already open. Or not. Sometimes, yeah, there it is. All right. This was a case where Photoshop
is gonna save the day. Cause Photoshop has something
that Lightroom doesn’t. Content-aware. Layers, compositing, all kinds of things. So if I go to the same
crop tool in Photoshop, and I switch to the same 4×5 aspect ratio, I get the same problem. The difference is in Photoshop, I’ve got a checkbox that
Lightroom doesn’t have. Give me a content-aware crop. So that now I can do this. It’s a big file sorry. Done. That will fit perfectly on Instagram. You’ll see his entire
suit. It’s a 4×5 now. There’s no need to expand it. There’s no need to do
anything to it. Save it. Gonna take a second to save
cause it is a big file. It’s got a layer now. It
created a layer called layer 0. Close it, come back to Lightroom, and it puts it right next to the original. I still have the original
untouched raw file as a backup that I can always go to, and now I have the new one
that I can sent to Instagram. So now I post it to Instagram, before I post it I share it to
the company and they’re like, “Man, what’s this poof
coming out of here?” Why is his button flipped up?” “Didn’t you get rid of
the label on this tie?” “Why is this little thing coming
out the back of his pants?” “What’s this all about?” “Why is there wrinkles?” “What…?” And when you start hearing all that, and if all you use is
Lightroom, your in trouble, cause Lightroom can’t fix any of that. That’s why I said it
depends on what you shoot. So now, “Your absolutely right my bad”, Command + E, because this is now a .psd and not a raw file, I get the choice. Edit original editor
copy, edit the original, cause I’m not done yet,
obviously I wasn’t finished. Go back to the original,
open it in Photoshop, I don’t need to crop it anymore, now I just need to fix it. So, first thing I would do, and I can duplicate the layer just so we have a before and after. First thing I would do, filter. I would convert for smart filters but just for the sake of time, liquefy. Move tool. Smaller move tool. Warp tool that is. Bigger warp tool. Smaller warp tool. All right. Great. What’s up with his
button? It’s flying away. That button looks cool,
this button doesn’t. So grab a patch tool. Use the better button. “What the heck’s going on here?” “You shot the label,
really?” (audience laughs) “You didn’t see that?”
“No, sorry I didn’t.” Clone stamp. (sings) Back to normal, there we go. Clone stamp. I’m not using my stylus so
it’s gonna be messy but, I would never do this with a mouse. Oh that’s horrible. Okay, looks kind of bad, not
blended in, use the patch tool, blend it in a little bit better. There we go. Oe, still not good. Great. All right, you get the idea. And what the heck is going on up here? Windy day. Save. Saving. Still saving. Done. Close. Back to Lightroom. So now I have the original, and I have the edited one that’s ready to go on Instagram with all the issues that the client wanted taken care of. That Lightroom would have
never been able to do. Got it? Now, let me give you another
example where Lightroom wins. Let’s go here. These were all set up to make a panorama. I’m just gonna grab a few of them. Let’s just grab four of these. You can make a panorama in Lightroom, I’m sorry, you can make
a panorama in Photoshop, you can even make a panorama using the same technique in
Camera Raw in Photoshop. But if I’m already in Lightroom, what do I need to go to Photoshop for? Back to that same thing.
If Lightroom can do it, faster, easier, and usually
non destructive here, only go to Photoshop when I have to. So, right click. Sorry, I’m like completely
drawing a blank. Photo merge, panorama, and there’s a new checkbox in the panorama in Lightroom called fill edges. Before you would’ve cropped this, or tried to use boundary warp and maybe it would’ve worked, maybe not, depends on the image. But now there’s… now some of that content-aware technology is finally starting to make it’s way into Lightroom. So I just clicked fill edges. Merge. Nope. But it’s not on mobile. So it’s just on desktop at this point. Cause mobile still doesn’t
have panorama or HDR merge. So the question was is it just in desktop, and no, rounded corner Lightroom
has the exact same feature. Now, as of yesterday. So, I get a brand new raw file, that I can go and make all the same adjustments to that I wanna make. And I can present and show this file. How many of you make prints? All right. This one is the one that
usually blows people away when they ask me why
do I need a Lightroom. Let’s say, let’s go to
one of my travel ones. Let’s go to Iceland. Let’s say that I like this one, I like this one, I like one of me, I like the ice on the black sand beach, and I like this little ice sculpture that happened organically. If I wanted to print
those four or five photos in Photoshop, what would I do? Open them one by one, or open all of them, go to each tab, and hit print, and go through all the settings
four, five times, correct? Cause there is no other way. Notice in Classic, there’s a print module? In the upper right corner. Print. First of all, you have an unlimited number of templates you can make. So if I wanted to see my
images up, four up on a 8×10, I wanna see my images up, six up, gotta have six images
selected, but you get the idea. If I wanna just do them one by one. I want a 5×7 for each one, I want a 4×6 for each one, then I get a page for each image, that I can now just hit print and it will make all five
or six images for me. If I want to combine them together, I can combine them together any way I want and adjust them accordingly. I can go design any look
that I want for my images. So let’s say, first of all let’s do a a wide, a warp wide, let’s do that first. And now let’s go in and say that I want, instead of four columns, I want three. And I want the spacing
between them to be less. And I want the height of
the columns or rows to be, so height, to be less. You get the idea. I can either print that
out, or better yet, print to a printer if you have one, print to a jpeg file if your done. And now I have a custom
designed print of my images, set up the way I want. And they didn’t fit all
on one page, no problem. Let’s go ahead and select one more so that it fills it out nicely. Done. So Lightroom kicks Photoshop’s butt when it comes to printing. There’s no comparison. Yes? No, they’re not. Those are not layers. This is just what the print
module does in Classic. All right. Just 16 minutes left. Great. Let’s go in and look at
this one, this example. This was the original photo. And I’ve retouched this photo a million times in classes in Photoshop, back when I used to show
retouching all the time. When Lightroom got the ability
to use the spot healing brush as a spot healing tool as a brush, I thought, Okay, we’ve
got the adjustment brush, we’ve got the spot
healing tool as a brush, we’ve got everything
else Lightroom can do, can I do a portrait
retouch now in Lightroom? Do I have to go to Photoshop anymore? And the answer is, yes to both. Yes it can be done. But this gets back into
the, is it worth your time? And of course it will always depend on how much work you
wanna do on the portrait. So, first thing right off the bat. Bugging me, I see one of the light boxes in the upper right corner. I the shadow of it, I see a glimpse of it. That’s gotta go. Easiest way to get that to go is crop it. So grab my crop tool, and I’m not even gonna
crop, I’m gonna rotate. Cause that will crop it for me. Done. Need to be a little straightened anyway. Second thing that’s bugging me, is the white balance in this
photo is completely off. It’s too yellowish, there’s
not enough skin tone showing. So, grab the white balance eye dropper, look for something that
should be around 18% gray, Oh! The microphone. That
will be perfect, great. Click. Fixes the white balance. Way easier, here. Next up, the yellow tape on the microphone is driving me nuts. That’s where the challenge comes in. Photoshop, piece of cake.
Patch tool, clone stamp, healing brush, lots of
ways to do it, easy. Can I do this in Lightroom? Let’s see. I do have that spot removal tool, that now works like a brush. Let’s see if it works. Gotta be careful. Got a little over zealous on
the right hand side there. Now I’m gonna let go. Back in Vegas. It’s gonna pick a spot, here we go. Oh, yeah, the fingers. I don’t need that. That’s not gonna work, but I can move it. I can just about get it over far enough to where the tape is gone. Oops. Back too far. Now, we get into some other attributes. The dark spots under her
eyes that are not her fault, she shouldn’t be punished for it. It’s just bad lighting. So, we can’t let her go out like that. Again, Photoshop, piece of cake. Patch tool, dodge and burn, easy. I don’t have any of that here. So I either have to use
an adjustment brush, or the spot removal tool. I can use an adjustment brush and just try and lighten those areas, or I can just use the healing brush and try and heal those areas. Either one, depends on which
one is gonna work best for you. So, let’s make the brush a little smaller. Just kind of right in here. Below the makeup, cause
the makeups intentional. But these areas are not fair. Whoa! What are you doing over there for? Let’s pull some hair into
that area, that’s natural. Okay now you have too modes
for the spot removal tool. You have clone and heal. Heal is best in this case
cause I want it to blend in. Clone would’ve actually been
better for the tight tape because you wanna duplicate
the top part of the microphone. So just depends on what you wanna do. (laughs) Forehead. Nice. (laughs) Yeah. Surprised you didn’t
go there. All right. (laughs) Okay. Not a problem. Now
the eyes are a little dark. Again, same bad lighting problem. So, I showed you the one trick already with the radio filter, but let’s try the adjustment brush. We haven’t used that yet. So we’re gonna set the
adjustment brush to exposure, gonna make it a little bit brighter, just gonna come in,
and right over the eye. Now, you never want to say you’re done brightening someones
eyes, when your zoomed in. Cause you can’t really
tell until you zoom out. You will create some creepy people, if you do it while your zoomed in. They are gonna be way too bright. They only need to be a little
brighter, not too much. So let’s zoom out. And then, we can go from creepy, to demon, to back to creepy, and back
down just a little bit. So just a little brighter. Not that bright. Not that dark. There we go. Now, the only other thing
I would start to wanna do, is I would grab an adjustment brush and I would set the
adjustment brush on this case, the next one, I would set it for (sighs) texture or sharpen, sharpness, and I will start sharpening
things like the jewelry, maybe the lips, maybe the eyes as well. I want the eyes a little bit sharper. Anything that I want,
anything that was metallic that I wanted to stand
out, so I could do that. And if we zoom in, if you… (phone beeps) No, turn this off. If you want to start
getting rid of blemishes, what we do on the spot removal tool, and that will do that. Anything that’s temporary
that’s not really part of her identity, wherever that went, those things will be fair game to remove. So pimples, anything that
wouldn’t be there today. Moles, beauty marks, those things we keep. Unless the client dictates something else. All right. Now the beauty
of doing this retouch here, it did take me twice as long as it would’ve taken me in Photoshop, but everything I did in Lightroom was completely non destructive. Anything I want to go back and
re-adjust or delete, I can. Your choice. Nope. I can go back to
any edit, any slider, any adjustment, and change it. So, if I did, let’s say the eyes were now scaled too bright,
or not bright enough. Go back to what you used,
which in this case was the, what did I use? The adjustment brush?, and click on that adjustment. And then you have the slider to continue to adjust that adjustment. Sold? (laughs) All right. Do I have the same ability to go back and do that stuff in what version? In the rounded corner version,
yes. Cloud version, yes. Every, like I said, those three panels, Classic, rounded corner cloud version or Camera Raw, nothing is different. It’s the exact same thing. Everything I’m showing you in Classic, you would do the exact same
way in the other version. There’s no difference. Say that again. Yeah. Anything I’m doing here, can be done in the other version. In terms of develop. All right. Yes? For mask? Good question. I love that question. Thank you for reminding me to show this. Her question was, “Which program
is best for mask editing?” I did 500 images that need the same thing. That would suck in
Photoshop. (audience laughs) it would be, cause well, in theory, you could open up the
first image in Photoshop, build an action of what you did and then grab the photo
of all the other images and run that action on that… it would, yeah you can do it, but this is again one of
those “Where’s it easier?”, way easier in Lightroom. Thanks for reminding me. So let me go in. I think I
have a collection already here in Classic for this. Oh please tell me I do. I just forgot what it’s called. Hang on. Select a better
still, no that’s not it. It’s one where I have a bunch of images that need the same adjustment. If not I’ll just pick a different image, a different set of images. Okay. I can’t find it.
I’ll pick a different set. All right let’s go to Atlanta. Okay. So 247 images from Atlanta. Different scenes, different places. And let’s say we start with
just the ones from the airport. Let’s say that all of these pictures of the planes in the sky,
however many that is, 34 images, need the same thing. So I selected the 34 images, I go over to the develop module, and there is a button in
Classic called auto sync. By default, it is on that. You will switch this and you will never change it again I promise you. Cause there is no reason in the world you’d ever wanna do it manually. So, go to your Classic
if your using Classic and flip this switch. And leave it on auto
and never turn it off. Because now that it’s on auto, if I go in and I say that I wanna make all of these images black and white, they’re all gonna be black and white. The exact same edit. If I wanna adjust the
brightness, the exposure, the texture, the dehaze,
50 different things, they’re all gonna get
those 50 different things. Non destructively. Now, unfortunately, Lightroom Cloud, rounded corner version
does not have auto-sync, but it can be done. Let’s say that, let’s
pick a different one. I don’t think I have
the Atlanta ones synced. Let’s go in and do (sings) yeah we do. No, I don’t wanna do it on
those, I’ll screw it up. Let’s go do the Pano one. Oh man, I don’t that one either. Let’s go do this one. Perfect. Let’s say I wanna apply the same edit to these images of the castle. So I go into the first one, edit, make whatever change you wanna make, so let’s bring the exposure
way down so we can see it. The difference is, I get out of edit. Get out of edit. Copy it, select all the other photos, and paste. Can be done. Just not as
slick as the other one. Have to do it via copy and paste. You mean I don’t want this
one to be dark? (laughs) For whatever reason. It’s a slider. Now that one’s not dark anymore. Same thing. “Oh my God, I didn’t
wanna make those dark.” “Those are gonna screw up
my demo’s from here on out.” I don’t know how I can do this
as a group, but let’s see. I can’t probably. (sings) No. I can’t. Let’s see if this works. So I’m gonna just go in
and hit reset to original, cause all of that was non destructive. And yeah, I am gonna have
to reset them one by one. That sucks. But in Classic, (laughs) you could hit reset on all of them. Oh I did, did I do an undo?
I probably did an undo. So let’s say we did and
adjustment once more, and we go in and we just
brighten them super bright. Now they’re all super bright. Oops, what was I thinking? Hit reset. Now they’re all back to normal. So Lightroom rounded corner fails at that. I don’t know if I can do a
copy + paste though, let’s see. See if I copy would that work. Okay. That works. Save the day. Same thing. New Lightroom. Wanna bounce this image over to Photoshop, right click, edit in
Photoshop or Command + E. It actually does a little bit more. It not only brings the edited ones back, but it stacks it with the original. Creates a stack which the
Classic doesn’t do by default. Did you guys learn anything today? In the back. Yes? Can I do the what that I did in Classic? There’s no printing in the
rounded corner one, at all. There’s no file print,
there’s no print of any kind. So a print is important to you, that might be a consideration
as to which one to use. Because that would insinuate
that it’s not professionals. Performance wise, if I have
thousands of photos as one… (phone beeps) one at a time, there’s one, so I’m not gonna answer, No I’m kidding, is one faster than the other one? Um, I haven’t done my own testing, but I’ve not seen one be, like both of mine have
46 000 synced images, they seem to be just as fast either way. You had a question in the orange. (laughs) No. I was nice. Say again. But you have no management whatsoever. That photos not local then
you can’t see those images. Can’t do anything with those images. Can’t put them in collections,
can’t move them, can’t… I can list a million things
you can’t do in Bridge. So, if your happy with Bridge, I’m not saying don’t be happy, but that wasn’t your question. And? Sure I can. My images
are on a server at home. Okay. You had a question? All right. Thanks. Thanks everybody. (audience applauds) (upbeat music)


  1. "Round the corner LR" – wonderful name! Seriously though, when I teach LR workshops the naming is still causing confusion.

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